Monday, June 20, 2011

S&W M&P 15-22 vs. Mossberg AR-22 :: First Impressions

With the increase of ammunition prices many people are turning to low cost rim fire versions of their centerfire guns. Whether you are looking for a rim fire pistol or rifle one of the most important things I look for is that the rim fire version needs to have similar; if not the same controls as its big brother.

Top: Mossberg AR-22 // Bottom: S&W M&P 15-22
In the world of cost effective .22LR ARs the Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22 has risen to the top. It is affordable (Base: $499.99), easy to maintain, and works! Most importantly to me is that its controls are the same as the AR-15. No tools are needed for disassembly, and if you know how to field strip an AR you will have no problem with the M&P 15-22.

Top: Mossberg AR-22 // Bottom: S&W M&P 15-22
The Mossberg AR-22 has just recently entered the market and has gained a lot of attention because its selling for just $299.99. I have had the opportunity during the past week to handle the AR-22 and come to find it has NOTHING in common with an AR-15 except for its dissapator appearance.
I am not going to list each gun's specifications here, but you can click on the links above and check out the manufacturer's website for all of the details.

Below are pictures of each rifle field stripped per their manual's instructions for regular maintenance.

The M&P 15-22 comes apart easily without the use of any tools and as I stated above; if you can disassemble an AR-15 you will have no problems with this rifle.

Feild Stripped S&W M&P 15-22 for Maintenance
The Mossberg AR-22 is a different animal altogether. Unlike the M&P 15-22 the AR-22 was NOT designed from the ground up to be a ".22LR Trainer"; rather Mossberg took their successful 702 Plinkster design and placed a cosmetic shell over it to emulate the 'look' of an AR-15. The result is that the rifle has no controls even remotely similar to an AR-15 and is a pain to disassemble for maintenace.

Feild Stripped Mossberg AR-22 for Maintance
There are several small screws that I can see being easily lost or stripped. Another thing that is required for disassembly is the removal of the optics mount and once the halves are separated the rear sight (which has both the elevation and windage adjustments) falls free. I have not shot the AR-22 but I would assume that this process may result in loss of zero.

If you are looking for a cost effective .22LR trainer I would strongly encourage you to spend the extra $200 and get the M&P 15-22.  A picture is worth a thousand words.

I am curious to know what you folks think of this rifle. Please feel free to comment on your experiences or insights.

-DoubleAught

**BONUS PIC**

702 in it's plastic shell
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23 comments:

  1. I still plan on getting a .22 upper for an existing AR-15 lower, but you just guaranteed that I will never consider the Mossberg .22 not-quite-AR.

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  2. I was looking into purchasing either models mentioned above & just could not find any interesting thing about the mossberg , it did not look or feel right to me & looked cheaply made so now after owning the S& W I'm ecstatic about it ,its so much better to hold, shoot & clean . After looking at the pics above of the Mossberg dissassembled, Im so glad i did not get one . Mossberg makes great shotguns but this ar22 is crap .Go with the Smith & wesson M&P 15-22lr ;) You love it !

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  3. I just picked up and M&P 15-22 and it is a blast to shoot. Having owned several different AR's over the last few years, I like how the M&P works the same. Spend the extra money and have a blast!

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  4. Purchased the M&P 15-22 for my 9 y.o. son's first gun and also got me an M&P 15 (.223). We finally got to the range and shot side by side...wow! He has been around/seen my AR's and knows them well and became a crack shot pretty quickly! I took my turn and was completely impressed with it's handling and sights. Very good investment if you want a .22 with the AR controls/feel. Looked at Mossberg and have to agree nothing at all but a "look alike" ...spend the extra and be happy!!

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  5. My older brother got one a few weeks ago an it is an amazing gun. I shot it and it was a blast. I was gonna ask my dad to get me the mossberg but then I saw the M&P and wanted that. I'm glad that's what I chose now that I look at the disassembly pics.

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  6. Thanks for your post, I knew something was too good to be true and after watching a disassembly video online I found out why there was such a price difference. You truly do get what you pay for.

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  7. I just purchased the moss berg and put it to the test. I put 500 rounds through it in under an hour and it held up great and shot spot on. Spending more than 300.00$ on a .22 is insane. Save yourself the money and buy the moss berg. After all it is just a range gun not a battle hardened 7.62.

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  8. I bought the Sig 522 and consider it superior to the M&P. No plastic bits and it has a much more solid feel to it and a great trigger out of the box. A friend of mine bought the Mossy and yeah it is a pile of crap. I shot the M&P a few weeks ago and really liked it. Just not the same quality of the Sig however.

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  9. Just purchased a Mossberg AR-22 flat top with 25 round magazine and now have put 500 rounds through it with only two hangers. It was also more accurate than I thought it would be. The magazine release is really the only negative I have found. Having a few more parts to clean is well worth the $260 price tag.

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  10. after reading this, it was the nail in the coffin for mossberg. i went with S&W and its an excellent .22 thanks for this review it helped my decision out alot

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  11. i got the mp15-22 and it is great and i like how its base of an ar platform. while the mossburg is just plain ugly and looks like a cheap pice of trash

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  12. Honestly Id love to own the Sig or the M&P but had to settle for the Mossberg. To be honest Im sure the better brand is more like the AR and easier to clean but when you have a budget but want something similar in .22 there is nothing wrong with the Mossberg. It shoots great and has the rails to ad goodies if wanted. Im a Remington guy so if the anti-gun liberals dont get their way then I'll wait for Remington to come out with their version of the .22 AR before spending anything over $300 on one. Just my .02 worth.

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  13. I got my mossberg 715T for christmas, very excited to go out and shoot it I loaded the clip but not a single bullet made it into the chamber. every bullet was smashed. I took it back to the local gun store and they sent it back to mossberg for me. now its been over a month waiting for it to come back.

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    1. Quit buying cheap ammo!! Lol

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    2. I own the both and the Mossberg is very picky on ammo. It really likes CCI high vel. the best. Not a bad gun at all. A bitch to clean but my son loves it. Dead on and seems to be reliable with high velocity ammo, doesn't like standard velocity at all though.

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  14. I have the Mossberg and a standard .223 AR and I like both. The Mossberg is not an AR, it's a 22 dressed up and it's fun and very accurate and since it's based on the classic 702 Plinkster (been around for years) it can take a beating, a lot of abuse, including poor cleaning habits - an all around choice for sub $300 prices. If you want an AR buy one, if you want an affordable 22 that looks like an AR the Mossberg is a great value.

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  15. I have a mossberg 702 and two AR airsoft guns. Gutting the AR airsoft guns and putting the mossberg inside is basically the same thing as the Mossberg AR-22. In fact, if you have a high quality airsoft gun, gut it, and put the 702 inside....you practically will have a better gun than the one Mossberg has for sale.

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  16. Unfortunatly, the M&P 15-22 is prohibited here in Cauckistan (Canada) so I really don't have a choice but to buy the Mossberg if I want to shoot .22 from an AR style platform. I would love to have the S&W, but my government thinks I can't handle it. Assholes.

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    1. The M&P 15-22 rifle is restricted in Canada because it is an AR based rifle. The 25 round magazine for it is prohibited because it could be used in the 15-22P pistol. If you were to buy the M&P 15-22 in Canada it would come with a pinned magazine allowing for only 10 rounds.

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  17. I bought myself the S&W M&P 15-22 and bought my son the Mossberg. My S&W has been flawless while my son has sent his Mossberg back to them twice for repairs. Both repairs resulted from dis-assembly. Both shoot well and are very accurate and reliable. No feed issues with either weapon. Difference is the assembly/dis-assembly. Buy the S&W.

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  18. I had The Colt Umarex .22 made by Walther.... I got rid of it and picked up an M&P 15-22 The colt looked and felt great! but under that beautiful aluminum shell it is all zinc Airsoft quality. The front sight post fell out the first time I shot it ,, The trigger pull varied between 3 lbs.. (great) but the next few shots it would be (I'm not kidding) 15 to 20 lbs.!!! No idea why. I watched the trigger group take down video, and could find nothing wrong inside ( burrs, breaks, dirt etc.) So good by colt and hello Smith..

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  19. The M&P 15-22 is an Awesome rifle. I Added a Magpul AFG, K-grip,& CTR stock (Mil-Spec) to it,& I love this rifle. Also put a UTG Red/Green dot sight on it for $35 (wasn't gonna put an expensive red dot on a plinking rifle) I've put over 2000 rounds through it w/ no malfunctions. The only bad thing I can say about it is, I can't find extra magazines for it anywhere. Other than that, It is everything you would want out of .22lr in an AR platform.

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